CO129-326 - Foreign Office - 1904 — Page 323

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Before the first hearing a question arose as to the treatment of the witnesses, who, with one exception, were Chinese subjects. It had been arranged from the beginning that while in Canton they should always remain in charge of Inspector Gidney and constables of the Hongkong Police, who were to take them back to Hongkong after the investigation; but the Viceroy considered that while giving evidence before the Commission they should kneel after the usual Chinese official custom. After consultation with Mr. Hallifax I pointed out that, though Chinese subjects, they were British witnesses who could not have come to Canton but for the assurance of protection from the British authorities; that, as the examination of most of the witnesses would be lengthy, enforced kneeling after the Chinese manner was little short of cruelty; and that in a British court those same witnesses would not be asked to kneel, because amongst other objections evidence could not be properly given in such a position. His Excellency on the other hand urged that British witnesses were placed under oath which reminded them of the solemnity of the occasion and that in a Chinese court a Chinese subject was expected to behave as if in the presence of the Sovereign.

It was finally agreed that each Chinese witness should, on being called to give evidence, prostrate himself as a mark of respect to the court, but that he was then to be bidden to stand and to remain standing throughout his examination. This course was followed, and generally I may say that the judicial investigation appears to have been conducted in a satisfactory manner.

The identity and guilt of the murderer, Chang Tso-t'ing, were established, but the Viceroy's opinion on the inconclusive nature of the evidence of Admiral Ho's complicity led to further delay.

At an interview on March 10th I gave His Excellency clearly to understand that the Hongkong Government had furnished all the assistance in their power. Again on April 1st, after many verbal communications through the Foreign Secretary, I told him personally that he must do the best he could with the evidence before him. I pointed out that His Majesty's

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320 Before the first hearing a question arose as to the treatment of the witnesses, who, with one exception, were Chinese subjects. It had been arranged from the beginning that while in Canton they should always remain in charge of Inspector Gidney and constables of the Hongkong Police, who were to take them back to Hongkong after the investigation; but the Viceroy considered that while giving evidence before the Commission they should kneel after the usual Chinese official custom. After consultation with Mr. Hallifax I pointed out that, though Chinese subjects, they were British witnesses who could not have come to Canton but for the assurance of protection from the British authorities; that, as the examination of most of the witnesses would be lengthy, enforced kneeling after the Chinese manner was little short of cruelty; and that in a British court those same witnesses would not be asked to kneel, because amongst other objections evidence could not be properly given in such a position. His Excellency on the other hand urged that British witnesses were placed under oath which reminded them of the solemnity of the occasion and that in a Chinese court a Chinese subject was expected to behave as if in the presence of the Sovereign. It was finally agreed that each Chinese witness should, on being called to give evidence, prostrate himself as a mark of respect to the court, but that he was then to be bidden to stand and to remain standing throughout his examination. This course was followed, and generally I may say that the judicial investigation appears to have been conducted in a satisfactory manner. The identity and guilt of the murderer, Chang Tso-t'ing, were established, but the Viceroy's opinion on the inconclusive nature of the evidence of Admiral Ho's complicity led to further delay. At an interview on March 10th I gave His Excellency clearly to understand that the Hongkong Government had furnished all the assistance in their power. Again on April 1st, after many verbal communications through the Foreign Secretary, I told him personally that he must do the best he could with the evidence before him. I pointed out that His Majesty's
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320 Before the first hearing a question arose as to the treatment of the witnesses, who, with one exception, were Chinese subjects. It had been ar- ranged from the beginning that while in Canton they should always remain in charge of Inspector Gidney and constables of the Hongkong Police, who were to take them back to Hongkong after the investigation; but the Viceroy considered that while giving evi- dence before the Commission they should kneel after the usual Chinese official custom. After consul- tation with Mr. Hallifax I pointed out that, though Chinese subjects, they were British witnesses who could not have come to Canton but for the assur- ance of protection from the British authorities; that, as the examination of most of the witnesses would be lengthy, enforced kneeling after the Chin- ese manner was little short of cruelty; and that in a British court those same witnesses would not be asked to kneel, because amongst other objections evidence could not be properly given in such a posi- tion. His Excellency on the other hand urged that British witnesses were placed under oath which re- minded reminded them of the solemnity of the occasion and that in a Chinese court a Chinese subject was expect- ed to behave as if in the presence of the Sovereign. It was finally agreed that each Chinese witness should, on being called to give evidence, prostrate himself as a mark of respect to the court, but that he was then to be bidden to stand and to remain standing throughout his examination. This course was followed, end generally I may say that the judi- cial investigation appears to have been conducted in a satisfactory manner. The identity and guilt of the murderer, Chang Tso-t'ing, were established, but the roy's opinion J in the Vice- inconclusive nature of the evidence of Admiral Ho's complicity led to further delay. At an interview on March 10th I gave His Ex- cellency clearly to understand that the Hongkong Government had furnished all the assistance in their power. Again on April 1st, after many verbal com- munications through the Foreign Secretary, I told him personally that he must do the best he could with the evidence before him. I pointed out that His Majesty's
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Before the first hearing a question arose as

to the treatment of the witnesses, who, with one

exception, were Chinese subjects. It had been ar-

ranged from the beginning that while in Canton they

should always remain in charge of Inspector Gidney

and constables of the Hongkong Police, who were to

take them back to Hongkong after the investigation;

but the Viceroy considered that while giving evi-

dence before the Commission they should kneel after

the usual Chinese official custom. After consul-

tation with Mr. Hallifax I pointed out that, though

Chinese subjects, they were British witnesses who

could not have come to Canton but for the assur-

ance of protection from the British authorities;

that, as the examination of most of the witnesses

would be lengthy, enforced kneeling after the Chin-

ese manner was little short of cruelty; and that

in a British court those same witnesses would not

be asked to kneel, because amongst other objections

evidence could not be properly given in such a posi-

tion. His Excellency on the other hand urged that

British witnesses were placed under oath which re-

minded

reminded them of the solemnity of the occasion and

that in a Chinese court a Chinese subject was expect-

ed to behave as if in the presence of the Sovereign.

It was finally agreed that each Chinese witness

should, on being called to give evidence, prostrate

himself as a mark of respect to the court, but that

he was then to be bidden to stand and to remain

standing throughout his examination.

This course

was followed, end generally I may say that the judi-

cial investigation appears to have been conducted in

a satisfactory manner.

The identity and guilt of the murderer, Chang

Tso-t'ing, were established, but the

roy's opinion

J

in the Vice-

inconclusive nature of the evidence

of Admiral Ho's complicity led to further delay.

At an interview on March 10th I gave His Ex-

cellency clearly to understand that the Hongkong

Government had furnished all the assistance in their

power. Again on April 1st, after many verbal com-

munications through the Foreign Secretary, I told him

personally that he must do the best he could with

the evidence before him. I pointed out that His

Majesty's

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